Hello Bob.
Votre je vois que votre GV progresse très vite , mais faites attention, il manque des entailles sur les baux et sur les courbes correspondantes, vous allez avoir des difficultés pour les faire une fois ces pièces en place (apparament définitivement).
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I see that your GV is progressing fast, but be careful, you are missing the notches on the beams and knees.  You will have a hard time cutting them once these parts are in place permanently (as it looks like they are).  

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Hello Bob,
Un grand    pour votre travail qui est vraiment bien réalisé  
Je rejoint Pierre pour les encoches dans les baux pour les hiloires, j'ai été contraint de refaire tous les baux de l'avant à l'arrière  
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Your work is really nice
I agree with Pierre in regards to the notches in the beams which will be used for the biding strakes.  I had to remake all the forward and aft beams

 

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Thank you for the good advice from all of you.  
I am just now beginning to understand the spacers that support the ledges. One of my mistakes learned the hardway; I cut out the knees so as to make the grain run perpendicular to the grain of the beams assuming that would be stronger.  Now I have to cut the notches for the spacers in the end grain of the knees, which is difficult at best. It almost seems that I have to first do it wrong to learn the correct way. Perhaps by the time I have finished this effort I will be ready to start over and build a model correctly. Oh well, I'm really getting pretty good at ripping out and starting over along the way.
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Merci à tous pour votre avis.
Je commence à comprendre à propos du support des barotins.
j'ai découpé les courbes en tenant compte du sens du grain pour ajouter de la solidité avec les baux.  Il me faut maintenant travailler les encoches, et c'est difficile.
J'ai l'impression qu'il me faut faire des erreurs avant que je puisse réaliser quelque chose correctement.  Peut être qu'après avoir complété ce projet je serai prêt à recommencer pour obtenir une maquette construite correctement.
Je deviens très bon à démonter et recommencer.  

Regards
Bob  

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Just a tip for the new builders like myself.

In addition to the extremely helpful comments from the mentors,  study of the ANCRE monograph Boudriot's "74" has recently proven to be very helpful for me. Of course Gilles' Newsletter has also been very helpful as far as it currently covers the "GV" build.

I think my biggest stumbling block was in not realizing errors in interpreting the "GV" plans until I had already made an error in the execution of the plans on the model. I have made numerous errors in interpreting and executing the plans for the "GV" only to find at a later stage that the assembly of later parts wasn't working. It was then clear where I had made an earlier error of judgment. Hence, a need, where possible, to tear out the previous work and start over from the point of the error.

I had actually read my copy of Boudriot's "74 Gun Vessel" some time ago, but I must admit that in reading it cold, many of the details never sunk in. Now that I have made a number of errors in building the "GV",  I find that rereading the "74" is much more enlightening.  Even though it is a different and larger ship than the "GV", many of the details are common to both. A consequence is that I now find the correct interpretation of the Gros Ventre plans much easier.

I would like to strongly recommend to the beginning builder studying Boudriot's other monographs, and in particular the "74" to develop a  basic understanding of how the French ships are built to facilitate reading the "GV" plans.

Regards
Bob  

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Sent by / envoyé par Bob P.

LGV progress ....
Les progrès ....





   

Gilles

Un GV très joli qui avance fort bien      
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A nice GV which is progressing quickly.      

 

--Last edited by G. Korent on 2006-09-30 12:43:41 --

Hello Bob.
Very good work. I see your GV go very fastly.
Très beau travail. Je vois que votre GV avance rapidement.
 

However, I notice you forgot dovetail notches at the ends of the beams and on the knees.
Toutefois, je remarque que vous avez oublié les entailles en queu d'aronde aux extrémités des baux et sur les courbes.  

Bonjour,
Bob, votre GV avance bien et celà me fait bien plaisir   , comme le dit Pierre, il manque les queues d'aronde sur les baux et les courbes, mais une fois les gouttières en place, bien malin celui qui le remarquera! Pour ma part je ne vois qu'une barre d'écusson en place (celle de babord), mais peut-etre allez vous rajouter celle de tribord.
Bonne continuation dans votre construction.
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It is nice to see that your GV is progressing fast     .  As Pierre mentionned, the mortises are missing on the beams and knees, but once the waterways are installed, no one will be able to tell.  As far as I can see you have just one filling transom (on the port side) but maybe you will add the one one the starborad side.
Keep up the good work.

JPB  

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Very nice job Bob

Très joli travail

Hello Bob

I've been admiring your series of photos. I'm about as far with the inside as you were a year ago. I have a question, in hopes that you still follow the forum. Did you cut the deck beams to the right cambre or did you steam them?
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J'ai admiré vos photos et J'en suis à peu près au même niveau.
Avez vous découpé les baux avec la courbature ou les avez courbé à la vapeur?

Henry  

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Hello Henry,
I cut the beams to shape and finished them with an oscillating sander.
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J'ai découpé les baux en leur donnant leur forme finale.

Bob  

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Thanks. I followed your advise. My next question involves cutting the notches for the binding strakes and carlins. I'm concerned that if I try to do it as each beam is made by measuring their locations from the plans, the eventual line will not be straight and smooth. Rather, should I make all the beams and put them in temporarily, then scribe a line along them all to get the notches lined up before I cut them in?

Henry

Hello Henry.
I think the second way is better. I do like that. I'm sure all the notches lined up perfectly.
Je pense que la deuxième méthode est meilleure. Je fais comme ça. Je suis sûr que les entailles sont parfaitement alignées.